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    "id": 350245,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/350245/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Keynan",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 41,
        "legal_name": "Adan Wehliye Keynan",
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    "content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, hon. Ethuro has actually attempted to cloud the minds of many hon. Members. I want you to get what I am trying to propose. I think hon. Chachu, hon. Kimunya and hon. Ethuro should listen. If you look at the Second Schedule, as it is, you will see that Committee “A” is National Security. Its subject matter is national security, including defence, intelligence and police services. Committee “B” is Home Affairs, whose functions include public administration, public service, prison service, immigration and management of national resources, disaster, et cetera . You then go up to Committee “E”, which is Foreign Affairs. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want to say Foreign Affairs is a security Ministry everywhere in the world. Secondly, I know that if we put together defence, intelligence and police, we will have interfered with the clear functions of the specific units. For example, putting Kenya Defence Forces nowhere. I have not seen any democratic jurisdiction where police and defence forces have been put together. It does not happen in any jurisdiction. What I am trying to propose is this---"
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