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    "id": 355451,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Nyenze",
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        "id": 1987,
        "legal_name": "Francis Mwanzia Nyenze (Deceased)",
        "slug": "francis-mwanzia-nyenze"
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, Sir, we met as the House Business Committee. As the Members who have spoken before me have said, we had long deliberations, but I want to put the record straight. Those two committees, namely, the PIC and the PAC, are oversight committees. The Government cannot oversee itself and for the Opposition to be effective, they have to have the majority in those two committees. We made it very clear. First, it was the Budget Committee, the PIC and the PAC. But after we consulted the Speaker, in his wisdom, he told us: “For the Budget Committee, let us give it to Jubilee”, because it is their budget; it is the Government of the day. So, we conceded. We gave ground. Then we said that it is good for the Opposition to play the role of oversight. You cannot give us the chairmanship of those two with a minority. You will be a lame duck there. Some Members could see light in that, but there are those Members who took hard positions and it was very difficult. Then we agreed to break and consult as parties. Our position has not changed and it will not change. It will remain the same and it is not our fault."
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