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    "id": 357356,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ochieng",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "David Ouma Ochieng'",
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    "content": "Hon. Deputy Speaker, if I may go slowly, I only said that rules are handmaidens of justice, but where they interfere with the carriage of justice, then we must allow ourselves to negotiate and discuss the rules so that they work for us. That is all I meant. I think that is even how we interpret laws in courts so that where rules are made absurd, the persons looking at them must bend them so that they fit the circumstances. I did not talk about Committees, but now I will talk about them. The fact is that we need to have these Committees in place. This matter cannot be gainsaid. This Constitution establishes both minority and majority. Some of us are still held up in the hangovers of the past. Let us work for Kenyans in a manner that will enable us achieve the purpose of this Constitution. You are not going to tell us that you are going to use the tyranny of numbers to pass things you want. No! Let us be Members of Parliament and not Members of Jubilee. Let us all act as such. CORD, where I belong, has accepted that its Members will not join Committees not just for the sake of it, but for the sake of making them work for this country. I thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker and also beg to support."
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