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    "content": "Another thing is that tourism, to many people, is a foreign thing simply because like other hon. Members have said, communities living with wildlife have not really benefited from that wildlife. So, for them to protect, it becomes of no consequence. The population living around wildlife conservation areas need to be part of the protection of that wildlife. They can only do that if they reap from it. However, as some hon. Members have said, I am aware that KWS has done quite a bit to the communities. But most of the other players have not done their bit to integrate the local community into enjoying the benefits that are accrued from wildlife. There are conservancies which today are practising wildlife and livestock management. Even those communities living around the national park need to borrow a leaf from some of them so that they can co-exist. I will give you an example in Maasai Mara. The wildlife has co-existed with livestock for many years. The conflicts are there but they are manageable simply because many people around the Maasai Mara now enjoy the benefits of the tourism sector. Most consumers of the trophies that are now disappearing have been mentioned as China and Taiwan. I would urge that this be sorted out through diplomatic circles because if one of us is a thief, it does not mean that all of us are thieves. So it is not fair to condemn a whole country because of a few. But I think the Government can sort that out. However, there are many questions that have not been answered. How can ivory pass through the airport and eventually get caught in airports thousands of miles away? So, as we discuss this Bill, we also need to discuss our security apparatus. We also need to look at ourselves as citizens. Are we doing a service to this country or not? For some of us who are in authority, we need to ask ourselves: Since there is no Chinese who works at the Customs Department at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA); there is no Chinese who works at the Port of Mombasa, who is doing that? It is you and me and our brothers and sisters. So, to condemn a country out of that is not fair. But so that this thing is brought to a conclusion, I would imagine somebody who is coming to destroy your source of earning would mostly be violating the Economic Crimes Act. What the Economic Crimes Act says is that when somebody does something like that, I do not think, in my opinion, although it is not in the law, people would want us to kill them. But I believe that those people should be imprisoned for life so that, at least, they spare the animals and we regain some economic benefits from them. That will ensure that the future generations can see them. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, allow me to say that Kenyans need to be enticed into appreciating the nature that we have. To do that, I urge schools to introduce a syllabus that touches on agriculture and wildlife for them to appreciate that in the latter days. That is because as it is today, even those who live in Nairobi have never been to Nairobi National Park (NNP). So, if you talk about NNP, it is something that they do not care about. The same applies to people who live around wildlife areas. Some of those children do not see the benefit of national parks because they have not gained out of them. So, I urge that this matter should be looked into in a broader perspective. I would"
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