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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ababu",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Ababu Tawfiq Pius Namwamba",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Deputy Speaker. I am on record having taken a very strong position in this House that we are a house of rules and when it comes to the rules of the House, these Standing Orders, indeed, are our Bible, Koran, and indisputable source of rules both on matters of substance and procedure. Indeed, this matter did come to the fore when we were debating the report of the Appointments Committee. Personally, while contributing to that report, I did raise the question of minutes. We also need to keep faith, both in the letter and spirit of the Standing Orders. With the practice and traditions that have previously informed debate on such matters in this House--- Standing Order 189 on the face of it, says that the names of the hon. Members present at each sitting of a Select Committee, shall be entered in the minutes of that sitting. It is not debatable and it does not just apply to the proceedings of meetings of this Committee or committees of this House. The names of any Member attending any meeting anywhere, has to be entered in the minutes. But now, I believe the issue here really lies with how we want to interpret Standing Order 190. It states as follows:- “The minutes of the proceedings of a select committee shall be laid on the Table of the House with the report of the committee and may, subject to Standing Order 247 be published.” Hon. Deputy Speaker, this is where I wish to seek some guidance or a ruling from Chair. The laying of the report on the Table of the House is an act that ought to be fulfilled when whoever is laying it may be the Chairman of a Committee or as it has been previously the practice, a Minister of Government. When the report is being placed on the table, it is presumed that a copy of the minutes will accompany it. At the point where this report was laid on the Table of the House was it was accompanied by a copy of the minutes?"
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