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    "id": 361072,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Shebesh",
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        "legal_name": "Rachel Wambui Shebesh",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, Sir, I want to reiterate that I am bringing a Motion of amendment to include the name of Phylis Kandie because she is qualified. I have heard Members of this Committee repeating that they were interviewing the nominees. I do not know who sent them to interview. The work of the Committee is to vet! If you look at the comments of the public--- I am worried that maybe due to public pressure, on the first day when Kenyans asked the Committee whether it was vetting or interviewing, it could have come up with a proposal that in order to appear tough it needed to look for a candidate whose name it would not pass. Because of the various reasons that have been given by hon. Members here, it is rather obvious by the standards of this House and even the Constitution that the reasons given to exclude Phylis Kandie do not fit the criteria and the mandate that we have been given. I beg this House that we include her name. I think she has gone through humiliation and stress as a person. Her children are watching this when Members are saying that she cannot hold a job and yet for 15 years she has been an investment banker who has advised the Government and the private sector. With regard to personalities, maybe, this House will need to take cognizance of that even as the National Assembly waits to vet more people. As a woman, we are trained on how to approach interviews and leadership positions. We are told that our personalities are portrayed. We are told not to pretend to be who we are not. In the realm of personalities, there are talkers also known as sanguines; there are watchers also known as phlegmatics; there are thinkers who are called melancholics; and there are doers who are called cholerics. Each of these personalities has its strength and fits in the given work. You remember the President said, when doctors were complaining, that you do not have to be a doctor to run the Ministry of Health. They are looking for managers, that is, people who can bring proper structures and efficient management systems. Those who speak too much normally cannot run organizations very well. However, those who are quite in their work are probably the best team builders and researchers. If you look at the work Phylis Kandie has done, you will find that she has, probably, succeeded and it is the reason she was interviewed by the President and his Deputy. They chose her to cover a portfolio that brings together three Ministries. When you say that she does not know anything about SADC or the EAC, I can tell you that many of us, as we came to this House, probably, we did not know those institutions as well because we came from different backgrounds. The three dockets she has been given are the East African Community, tourism and commerce. Honestly, I would not imagine that the President and his Deputy could give such a heavy portfolio to a woman who is not competent. Let us overlook the ability to communicate and look more at the ability to deliver. I want to move that Motion and ask hon. Angwenyi to second it."
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