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    "id": 371040,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/371040/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ochieng",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 2955,
        "legal_name": "David Ouma Ochieng'",
        "slug": "david-ouma-ochieng"
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    "content": "That is the case that the Member is referring to and legal judgments that are done by courts are public documents. Let hon. Members Google, get those documents, read and understand them. We are living in times when this country has gone through a lot. During this Session of Parliament, we moved a Motion urging the Government to establish a fertilizer factory in this country. I am sure you have been living around for quite a while and you know the case of Kenren. Kenya paid so much money to construct a fertilizer company that was never to be. We continue paying that money. That is what the hon. Member is talking about. He is talking about monies we are paying and yet, we are not getting any services. This year - and we know without going into the facts - Kamlesh Pattni has taken the Government of Kenya to court again to try to implement the World Duty Free agreements. We continue losing money every day and that is why we should not stifle debate just because some names have been mentioned. We must learn to put our mouths where our monies are. We must plan to ensure that where public investments are involved, we, as Members of Parliament, must"
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