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    "speaker_name": "Dr. Khalwale",
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        "legal_name": "Bonny Khalwale",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to reiterate that it is important that you consider that request and, indeed, refer this matter to the Committee on Powers and Privileges. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you will recall that the time Mr. Gor Sungu was caught up in this matter, it was before the transmissions of this House were made live. If members of the Judiciary could understand how we were operating at that time, then they would appreciate that now when we are enjoying our privilege of immunity while on the Floor of the House. Because we are being transmitted live, members of the press have no problem in reporting what takes place here. However, at the time of Gor Sungu, the process was that after you enjoyed your Parliamentary immunity on this Floor in camera, as soon as you stepped out, the press would want you to clarify while you are still in the precincts of Parliament. While you were clarifying, it would then be very difficult for you to be found to have been malicious the way this particular hon. Judge found. For this reason, it is important that we have a re-look now that this disparity has been exposed. When we look at it, maybe we are just looking at the Kshs3 million that Mr. Gor Sungu was asked to pay. I have seen in the ruling that he was also supposed to meet the costs. We have no idea what those costs were. This is a former hon. Member of Parliament whom I know very well is not a businessman. He was relying on his salary here and I know that he relies on his pension. He might now be impoverished because of this particular ruling."
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