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    "speaker_name": ". Hon. (Ms.) Odhiambo-Mabona",
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        "legal_name": "Millie Grace Akoth Odhiambo Mabona",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I stand to support. I agree with hon. Washiali that there is need for wide consultations on this Bill. I looked at this Bill when it was before this House. I am one of the people who sat here during the wee hours and I brought several amendments. I know it was acrimonious which is typical just like the Marriage Bill is bringing acrimony even before hon. Members know what it is all about. That is the nature of legislation. However, in order to carry people along it is good for hon. Members to know or listen to the sides like hon. Washiali who think that there is need for a big institution and reduce bureaucracy and like hon. Junet and others who can convince us why we need to have all these small units. For myself, I had pushed for a separation of fishing from the Bill. However, I was convinced to allow it eventually. This is because, really, if you compare fish and tea and pyrethrum they are really incomparable. So, we will have to look at whether we need to collapse fish with livestock and so on. The extension gives us a good opportunity to re-examine. The only thing is that it regrettably takes away some of the good amendments that were bringing sanity in some of the industries, for example, the fishing industry. I had brought an amendment on ex situ and in situ fish breeding which the more we delay in passing this Bill the more time we take in terms of operationalizing that. Even the issue of the grant that we had passed that should benefit fishermen will be delayed. Fortunately, in relation to the grant we passed a Motion which got a hurdle because when it came to budgeting it was said that it is a county function. This goes back to the same thing that hon. Members have said here. That even as we pass these Motions and Bills which have county and national functions we need to ask ourselves the place of the National Assembly in this structure. Is the constituency a unit of devolution? If it is a unit of devolution how does it sit within that structure of devolution? Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker I want to disagree with my brother--- Not my brother actually, but my uncle hon. Kaluma in terms of his sentiments on devolution. I think if you look at the reason we are extending this period it is because the Ministries are not ready. We are within a period of transition. In this House we are using the same reasons to attack Governors. I think we are moving in the wrong path. Devolution is the sure way of bringing sanity and equality and equity to this country. We know that there may be governors that are excited and may be brining motorcades. So what? Even us we bring our motorcades without being governors. Let us spend less funds and encourage our governors. We need to give them direction if they are going wrong, but we must support"
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