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    "id": 377396,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogalo",
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        "legal_name": "George Oner Ogalo",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, it appears to me that this is happening because they do not go to Mombasa or wherever to understand their role, really! They go there to swim and do other extraneous things. The levels of these Parliaments in terms of their roles are clearly defined. We have the role of the National Assembly in Article 95 and the role of the Senate in Article 96. By the way, even if you look at those provisions, the role of the National Assembly is in eight substantive provisions. The role of the Senate is in four. The most important part is Article 96. This one I am reading to hon. Kamama because he indicated that he does not understand this. The problem we have as the National Assembly is questioning how we will be able to accommodate the hon. Members nominated by the Senate to represent Kenya – if they can do that – at PAP. Now, Article 96 (2) reads:- “The Senate participates in the law-making function of Parliament by considering, debating and approving Bills concerning counties, as provided in Articles 109 to 113.” Now, when you send a Senator to PAP, is the County of Homa Bay in PAP? This is a Parliament in which the representatives are persons representing the people of nations as a continental body. So, in as much as we may want to sympathize and appear to be the brethren we should be, we must, first, remember that we are a law-making institution. We must be the first people to obey the law. It would be difficult to accommodate those hon. Members, the Senators purported to be nominated for appointment to PAP. The debate that has been going on between the National Assembly and the Senate is becoming worrying. I just needed to end by alerting fellow Members of this House to the provisions of Article 95(5). It provides that the National Assembly reviews the conduct in office of the President, the Deputy President and other State officers. If hon. Members would care to read the provisions of Article 260 where we define “State officers” and “State offices”, the Senate or our brethren across the road, are State officers. The time has come, hon. Speaker and hon. Members, for us to begin reviewing the conduct of the Senate. Else, we are taking a lot of time to debate issues which should--- With those very many remarks, I urge that we debate the matter tomorrow. Thank you."
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