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    "speaker_name": "Mr. M. Kilonzo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo",
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, quite honestly and out of enormous respect for my colleagues who have raised these points of order, I am glad to see that they have read the Constitution. There are many people who have not yet read it. I would like to suggest that they look at it a little further and stop being afraid of the Bills I am bringing on the Floor and anticipating them. The points that have been raised go to the question as to whether Article 59(4) is available to the Ministry of Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs to formulate policy, in consultation with the public, particularly women and the marginalized who are covered under Order No12; particularly with the issue pertaining to administrative justice; the millions of Kenyan people who end up in Government offices and are treated shabbily, files lost or they are asked for bribes. That is intended to be addressed by Order No.10. I, therefore, would suggest that the Chair finds that I am quite in order, because it is enough for me, as Minister, in consultation with women and the marginalized group who are very much affected by Order No.12 and the Kenyans I have mentioned covered under Order No.10, to bring proposals in the form of Bills to this House without commanding the House. I am glad to notice that they are not objecting to the Motion in substance; but they are objecting to what the Bills I will be presenting will be saying to the country. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would beg your permission to find that I am quite in order to utilize Article 59(4) and to create this policy without in any way demanding that Parliament must agree with me. But do not ask the House to shut me up and say I can only create one policy on Article 59(4). Allow these Bills to proceed forth in the manner that we have requested. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg your ruling in support of my Motion. Thank you."
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