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    "speaker_name": "Eng. Gumbo",
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        "legal_name": "Nicholas Gumbo",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I just wanted to emphasise what both hon. Mwau and hon. Khalwale have said, because, as the Minister rightly pointed out, APSEA is an association of professionals from the whole of East Africa. What hon. Mwau is seeking to cure is the fact that if you give APSEA a blanket ticket to nominate a member without limiting that ticket, you cannot stop them from nominating anybody. If they nominate a Tanzanian, they will have broken no law. So, we want to request your discretion. As it is, this provision has a serious potential to be in conflict with the Constitution, which gives the sovereign authority to the people of Kenya. I am a member of APSEA. I am sure that the Minister is also a member of APSEA. As it is, if the APSEA Council sits down and nominates a Tanzanian or a Rwandese they will have broken no law, but we will have breached our own Constitution by bringing a foreigner to sit in the Salaries and Remunerations Commission. So, I ask you to look at this matter and see how that potential dangerous conflict with the Constitution can be cured at this stage. Thank you."
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