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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. First of all, I thank the Committee for coming up with this Report. Looking at the quorum in the House, it is clear that very few people really understand the implication of that kind of interference. We have that kind of thing happening in the United Kingdom now and media houses have been closed down and the Prime Minister is travelling and gasping for air because of something some people heard through the telephone. We do not know whether the mushrooming FM stations and TV stations here are hacking into our system and, in the process, interfering with the airwaves. The best we can do is for us to take this matter very seriously and urgently, so that we overhaul, like the Committee recommends, the whole system from scratch. We should scan through all the networks that we have here, so that even if they bring bugs in order to hack into our own internal system, they will not be able to broadcast and then ridicule us as they would wish to. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is a total infringement of all the privileges that we enjoy in this House, when unauthorized hackers like would happen, get access to our transmission system and given that most of these public address systems, particularly the one broadcasting to the offices here is slightly older than most people in this Chamber. These systems were installed well before 1963 when even the technology in transmission was obviously not where we are at the moment. Two years is a very long time in technology. We should without delay be able now to come and recommend that we at the very least clear all these systems and install a new system as a security measure in this Parliament. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank the Parliament security system. They have a very comprehensive camera network. But that too has its own shortcomings. As I speak here, I am facing about three cameras here which could be active in front of us. These are not the normal audio ones. These are the security cameras. But how do these cameras talk to each other? Where is the server? How safe are they? How do they relate to the other overall systems here? All these issues need to be looked at together. Most importantly, we need to have those people who are in charge of security like they do here. I see sniffer dogs every now and then going round. They come around and check again at high tech. Is there a possibility that another Wikileaks is in the making by just continuously leaking what we are discussing here even when our microphones are off? Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is one of those very sensitive reports. It borders on what happened in the Committee of Agriculture at one time, in the pigeon- hole area. We found out that the House was infiltrated by a stranger who has never been identified. That stranger brought some very slanderous items that provoked the Speaker to make certain very strong rulings and we had to go and do investigations. On counter- checking, we tried to find out; how did the letters get into the pigeon-holes? Who brought the letters? Up until now, that has not been resolved. I believe that in the new Chambers, that will be something of the past. We will be able to monitor in real time what is happening to the mail of the hon. Members. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, in congratulating this Committee, we should have a timeline. When is Parliament going to take action on this matter as a security concern? The noise you are hearing is simply the fact that certain signals or waves are going the wrong way and then interfering with the quality of sound as it is now. We have to give this House at least not more than 60 days, so that they can come and put their act together. We either use this system or we use the Africa system whereby we just go under a tree then if we are so unsafe electronically here in our Chamber. After all, we did allow that we can hold our proceedings anywhere. That is how serious this matter is. I want to confirm that, indeed, a lot of people, including the Mars Group, have interests not necessarily the interests of this State, but interests of their paymasters who do quite often want to get certain information. Unless you look at the totality of the performance of this House then you will continue getting those kinds of slanderous information you get; that the Tenth Parliament is not doing this or that. Not long ago, we had in, one of the newspapers, photographs of the legs of one of the lady MPs. It is not bad for somebody to show legs. But legs of an hon. Member in the Chamber is an intrusion of our privacy in this particular Chamber. Quite too often, we do whisper our personal information around. But now the very fact that you are able to have that in the public, that is the making of a major scandal. I want to remind you again like I did the other time that from where you sit, one Jean Marie Seroney sat there and the same hacking system by the intelligence picked all that he was doing and all his rulings. He was seated on that same Chair you are seated on. When he got outside here, he was arrested and the man became a pauper thereafter. Martin Shikuku, whose point of order had resulted in the ruling by the Chair that you do not substantiate the obvious was so humbled that, up until now, he is still asking the Government to, at the very least, give an apology. It is that kind of event, the interest other people have in your Chair, the kind of interest that people have in what we say in the Chamber that compels me to urge this House to implement this Report in totality. I beg to support."
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