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"content": "If you die accidentally and your widow or the children search for the pay slip, it is nowhere to be seen. Banks now even insist that before they give you a loan, you must show them the original pay slip. So, you probably took some loan there and that is why they cannot find the pay slip. Why must the Government insist on seeing the last original pay slip before any settlement is done? Some of these rules could be made easier so that people can access their claims. The second thing I want to say – because I had this problem when my mother retired – is that she had so much problems of her file moving from Teachers Service Commission (TSC) to the Pensions Department. I think it took her two years. I had to move from one office to another; something had to be done here; something had to be done there; an officer has to be seen, and at that time, I was a Member of Parliament. Now, if your son is not a Member of Parliament and is not in Nairobi, you could have a lot of problems moving your file in your own department, which has employed you for The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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