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    "id": 383437,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/383437/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Wetangula",
    "speaker_title": "June 25, 2013 SENATE DEBATES 11 The Senate Minority Leader",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 210,
        "legal_name": "Moses Masika Wetangula",
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Senator is just fortifying what I was saying; a protectorate is not a state. He should understand this. I know he is a very well educated person. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as I oppose this amendment, I also find it very difficult to come to terms with the whole Motion. I was driving to the airport to go to Mombasa and I listened to the distinguished hon. Senator for Kisumu County, Sen. (Prof.) Anyang’- Nyong’o. I thought he made valuable contributions to this Motion. I know that Sen. G.G. Kariuki holds very passionate views about the IDPs. But where do you start and end? What normally happens whether you are reviewing issues of 1895, 1993 or 2007? There are some politically-instigated clashes, like Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale has said, that have resulted in what we would call professional IDPs. People come; they are taken to a settlement and given land. The next day they sell the land and go back to the camps and become IDPs. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in 2007, the country produced the highest number of IDPs in Kenya. This was because of the conflict between two communities in the Rift Valley. My community suffered serious collateral damage. Those two communities are now firmly in a political bed. The IDPs left their land; their houses were burnt down and went to markets and camps. Their land, however, was not burnt and is still there. Why can the Government not take these people back to their parcels of land? We do not want to get to a situation where Prof. Ali Mazrui remarked once; very intelligently, that once two elephants fight, the grass suffers. He added that grass suffers more when the two elephants make love. Now that the elephants are together, should the grass continue to suffer? This is a big question. I do not think we should spend any state money---"
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