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    "id": 383655,
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    "speaker_name": "June 20, 2013 SENATE DEBATES 8 Sen. G. G. Kariuki",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker for controlling my feelings about this issue. I come from where this problem is. If the gracious lady had not left the Chamber, I would have explained to her how I think we are encouraging criminals. This is by keeping people in tents and allowing them to give birth to children who have no opportunities. What do you expect of those children to become? They have to look for their livelihoods. That is why I am saying they could be criminals. However, not all of them are criminals. Some of them have relatives who take them to school. But for the majority, those are breeding centres for criminals. I beg to repeat that. The moment we herd people together in an area and fence them in, they have no facilities to feel like human beings. When children from such areas grow up, they will want to fend for themselves. How do they do this? They may get their food, for example, from Sen.(Dr.) Khalwale. It is not because these people have no brains. They exercise their brains by looking for what to survive on. Madam Temporary Speaker, on the issue I was addressing of people who were moved from forest areas, during the 2007/2008 post election violence crisis, 663,991 people were displaced. From this number 350,000 sought refuge in some other areas. Another group of 118,000 disappeared to our neighbouring countries such as Uganda and Tanzania. Can you imagine a situation where people get out of Kenya; a country known to have one of the best systems of Government? It is considered as the best democratic country in East and Central Africa. Kenya is considered by other countries as the best example in the region. With all those kinds of expectations, we had people running away to Uganda where there were perpetual wars. We have never had the kind of wars that Uganda went through. It was such a shame for our people to run away to Uganda. This was quite embarrassing. They could have run away to Tanzania, which is a bit stable. But is this a credit to our leadership even if they went there? We are living in very interesting times. We fail to understand ourselves. We are not capable of investigating ourselves so that we understand the kind of political environment we are giving to this nation. Our political life is simple. At any time we either want a Kikuyu, a Luo or a Luhya President. That is what we concentrate on. Would you tell the people in camps that we attained Independence in 1963? They would prefer that that Independence never happened if they are going to continue living in the camps. If I was in their place, I would do the same. I would hate to hear that there is something called Independence if my mother and other family members are living in a tent. Madam Temporary Speaker, I hope that good minds like Sen.(Dr.) Khalwale and other hon. Senators will manage to describe the situation better than I have. I am older than Sen. Nyong’o, but he is my Professor and my teacher."
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