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    "content": "we talk about free maternity services to expectant and delivering mothers. That is a noble objective, but if you go to the ground, like the day I went to Mageta Health Centre, they had half a bed. They told me that it was very difficult to have women deliver on that half bed. They said that without charging the fees that they were charging, they would not be able to maintain what they require to give this kind of service to members of the public. Madam Temporary Speaker, it is important that once you categorize a facility as a Level 4 or Level 5, it should have the kind of equipment and facilities and human resources that are required for that kind of facility. The only other functional section that I liked in that heath centre which was offering ongoing services, which I think Sen. Wetangula would be happy about, is circumcision. In that part of the world, I think that it is a plus, because it is becoming an acceptable practice. I would urge that while we appreciate the intents and objects of this Motion, we should not do what we have seen in many other areas; that once you say that you are going to develop universities, then you have just buildings, but when you go in there, they do not look like universities in terms of facilities. Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to agree with Sen. Wamatangi also that sometimes we need to have a qualitative analysis. Sometimes when you see that some services were confined to certain areas, then we may lose the point. I grew up somewhere in Kiganjo and, partly, in Kikuyu. Sometimes when you look at the facilities there, they are there in name, like the famous Gatundu Self-help Hospital. I think that it is comparable to some of the health centres that you see in the Republic. There is an assumption that there are services in this part of the world. There needs to be a qualitative analysis, otherwise, one would not expect the daughter - and her activity in this regard is commendable and very positive – of His Excellency the President being involved in a campaign to fight jiggers in Central Province. That itself speaks volumes on the state of health and primary care in many parts of the country, where we even assume that things are much better than the rest of the country. For example, we have not heard so much of the jigger menace in Turkana. So, every area has its own peculiar problems. I think qualitative analysis should guide the country as to where these kinds of facilities should be constructed. I know that whenever you do not carry out this kind of analysis, you end up---"
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