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    "content": "any additional revenue for the county governments to a level which can meet the short fall of the county governments. Regarding the question of borrowing, it cannot be done without the approval of the national government. So, the county governments are going to operate on a very limited scale when we talk about revenue. To that extent, the best way of looking at it is to consider the two levels of government but in practical terms, it is 47 governments at the level of counties and one government at the national level. So, the resources for the 47 counties, if these functions were properly defined and proper costing done, in reality if the national government is going to deal with more policy than anything else and issues of development that are cross-cutting, in my view the division of revenue between the two levels of government should be at the range of more than 45 per cent to 55 per cent. Then you will be talking about county governments having what they will need to carry out development in the various counties and at the same time be able to employ those who will do appropriate work for the counties and its residents. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I just want to say this although it is not directly connected to the Bill. I will make some concluding remarks on the Bill later. The most important thing about the issues that arise out of the power and authority of the Senate is that some of the arguments are really misplaced. For example, if you had to engage in a debate as to which one is superior between the executive and the judiciary, which one is superior or whether the National Assembly or Parliament is superior to the executive, I think that would be a discussion not worth engaging in. What one must look at is the architecture of the Constitution. That architecture that is found in our Constitution in terms of structures and the basic framework is that the three arms cannot do without the other. Even in terms of Parliament, the structure is that both the National Assembly and the Senate must operate within the confines of the Constitution. They have functions that are concurrent and others which are distinct. Therefore, to begin to have an argument about which is superior and which is not is a debate that is not going to take us anywhere. In terms of status and decorum, I think there are a lot of experiences, historical and otherwise that show, in the order of things, which House is the upper or lower house. I have just been reading a discussion on what is going on in the British Government. This is the debate about gay rights which is now before the British Parliament and in both Houses. No lesser person than the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is recognizing the House of Lords as the Upper House because that has been the tradition and the practice in England. In the United States of America (USA) which is more in conformity with our system of government, the Senate is considered to be the superior House because it is the House of Delegations. As we come here, we do not come here as individual Senators. We are a delegation to Parliament. We are sent by a government under a county as a delegation and our system of voting is very different because when we are taking a roll call vote, it is on the basis of delegations. That is not worth taking a lot of time. Just by sheer practice and experience in our own history, officially the two chambers were referred to as the House of Representatives and the Senate but in common parlance which was accepted, one was the Lower House and the other one the Upper House. Even in 1963, the Senate was the Upper House. So, historically speaking and according to our traditions, the Senate is always the Upper House. That is not to say that you take all the functions; even in your house, you maybe the head of the house –and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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