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    "content": "it is possible that we can raise it using nothing, but just the Constitution. If you look at page 210(2), it provides for the devolved funds being given conditionally and also provides that funds can also be given unconditionally. So, we would like to use that window of unconditional provision of funds to ensure that we raise the amount to Kshs238 billion or more. I would like to request the national Government to see the need to save on these funds by avoiding unnecessary constructions on the seats of Government. The counties that are found in the former provincial headquarters have more than what they need by way of infrastructure. The people of Kakamega, Mombasa, Kisumu et cetera, do not need this infrastructure. All you have to do for these ones is to ask that officer called the former Provincial Commissioner (PC) to go away and then Oparanya, Ranguma and our brother Joho can move into those offices and that money will be free for use. Finally, Madam Temporary Speaker, you have seen the national government trying to use public debt to deny them funds that they deserve. County governments were not there when the national government was incurring these huge debts. In any case, even the so-called public debts, in many instances, are not genuine. There are many debts we are paying in terms of hundreds of billions per year that we do not have to pay. Let me give you an example. Sen. Wako is here and will tell you the truth. All the so-called security tenders with regard to Anglo Leasing are debts we are paying that we do not need to pay. We are even paying for a project called KenRen Fertiliser Factory. I think last year, we paid Kshs145 billion for this factory. KenRen was a fertilizer factory that never was when the former President Kibaki, was Minister for Finance. I support."
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