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    "id": 386542,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ethuro",
    "speaker_title": "The Speaker",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 158,
        "legal_name": "Ekwee David Ethuro",
        "slug": "ekwee-ethuro"
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    "content": " Order, hon. Senators! Several points of order have been raised. One was whether the Whips should be part of the list, in their capacity of being Whips. The second one was whether the party Members have been informed by the respective political parties on the composition of this Committee. Another one by Sen. G.G. Kariuki was whether these Standing Orders should be used by this Senate, having not contributed to them and the initial one was by Sen. (Eng) Karue; whether really contributions to procedural Motions amount to a maiden speech. Let me start with the last one that came first. For purposes of our deliberations, your contribution to a Procedural Motion is not your maiden speech. Your maiden speech which you will make without being interrupted by any other Senator, will be when we have substantive business before the Chamber. So, I hope that is clear. The one on whether the Whips should be there and designated as Whips, I think Sen. Murungi has explained and I was wondering why Sen. Wako decided to read No.4 before No.3, because I thought it follows that you read the first ones before you go to the other ones. So, it is clearly stated that in nominating Senators to the Rules and Business Committee, each parliamentary party shall include its Whip into the membership. So, while it does not come under Standing Order No.174 (1) where the rest are indicated, they become part of 174 (1) (d) and I think there is really no harm because part 3 has provided that they must be there. So, it is just good to indicate. In any case, Sen. (Dr) Khalwale wanted a statement indicating which party and perhaps what he did not say is even which region. Except, for the information of Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, it is not the practice of even the other parliaments, have indicated those details. I think always these names have come like this on the list and Members know each other. So you can easily determine where they come from. I can assure you as your Speaker that we took care of that when the submissions were being made to us as per the Standing Orders. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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