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    "id": 388548,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kamau",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 35,
        "legal_name": "Jamleck Irungu Kamau",
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    "content": "Thank you hon. Speaker. I rise to second the amendment. As I second the amendment, it is important for hon. Members to understand why this amendment came into being. We do not want to be seen like we are asking for non- cooperation for this country. Without any question, this was a resolution of the 10th Parliament. The 10th Parliament made its own resolution with regard to the issue of International Criminal Court (ICC). This is contained in that particular part we want to amend. But what we are saying is that we do not want people to go out there and start thinking that this House passed this Motion today seeking for non-cooperation with the cases at the ICC. That is further from the truth. In actual fact, if I can speak to the media directly so that they can actually understand where we are coming from, we are not seeking not to cooperate with the ICC; that is totally not the case. It is important for us to make it clear that, as the President and his Deputy have said, they are fully co-operating with the ICC and they will continue doing so. Secondly, it is important for us to distinguish between the roles of the Executive and the Legislature. Where the President and the Deputy President sit is the Executive; they have no role in making law. Laws are made in this House. When we pass a Motion in this House, it is up to this House to amend it the way it wants. It does not have to get recourse from the Executive. Hon. Speaker, I think it is also important to understand where we came from. I heard somebody talk about the local tribunal. The Motion came before the House and it did not go through. Majority of hon. Members did not vote for the local tribunal and what was the reason? The reason was simple, at that particular time, all of us, including me believed that the ICC was a very clean place, a fair place, a good place where you can get justice. But that was not to be, and that is why Kenyans are clear today on the move they would want to take. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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