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    "id": 388839,
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    "speaker_name": "The Senate Majority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": "(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will also try and shorten my remarks so that other people can contribute to the Motion. What has happened, if I can continue from where I left, is that a few people especially from the Non-Government Organisations (NGOs) world decided to convert the misery and the tragedy that befell our country into a money-minting business where a few citizens have converted themselves into running rings and organisations in the name of victims support. These are people who have been responsible and have been used by foreigners to cook up the stories and bring up the kind of friction that is now being witnessed before the International Criminal Court (ICC). As I said, we should be all ashamed as Kenyans. No Kenyan should be clapping or celebrating at such a time as this, when our country is going through what is happening at the moment. In my Motion, other than the deferral--- As I emphasized, if even the foreigners themselves are saying that this matter should be deferred to Kenya, how much so should Kenyans do? So, I want to see which one of us, as leaders, would want to look at these things with sobriety. I want to agree that due to the importance of this Motion, we should tone down our rhetoric. This is not the time to blame each other. Let us look forward. For me, as the Mover of this Motion, the forward looking nature of this Motion is that we are saying that because of the negligence of all of us in 2007/2008, the six Kenyans who have already stepped in The Hague will be the first and the last Kenyans there. It is for that reason that my Motion is urging the Government to initiate the process that will lead to the withdrawal of the country from the Rome Statute so that in future, when we are confronted with these kinds of problems, we can be able to solve them locally. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think I am concluding my submission but the consultations are too loud. You can help me because I do not think I am being heard."
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