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    "content": "Uhuru Kenyatta in Kakamega killing people. So, how can we be so cheap, driven by tribal emotions to think that when the bull fighter is speaking, it is because he does not come from the tribes of the President and the Deputy President? I am saying that we will defend the interests of the accused and defend even more vigorously the interests of the voiceless victims. How do you do it? You do it by acknowledging the simple fact that the process at The Hague is being presided over by your seniors. You are so junior compared to your colleagues at The Hague. Have some respect for your colleagues even if I am not your colleague. Please do! The process at The Hague is being presided over by legal experts together with judges and these people will be guided, not by the politics of Kenya and not by the ethnicity in Kenya; they will be guided by points of law and the weight of evidence. Mr. Speaker, Sir, even as we speak now, many Kenyans know that there are a lot of witnesses who are pulling out. So, if witnesses are pulling out of the case, it means that the weight of the evidence is slowly going down. So, why spoil it with this thoughtless Motion that now wants to give the impression that we are not for The Hague? We must oppose this Motion. I really have no words to reiterate what Sen. Wetangula has said; that we owe it to the ongoing cases at The Hague for the tranquility that we had after the elections of 4th March, 2013. This was because there was a deterrent. You are all adults and you have children. If you are attacked by thieves or thugs in your home and then you buy a dog; when another group of thieves come and attack the village and do not come into your home because you have a dog, you do not wake up and tell your wife and children that you sell your dog. The dog is the ICC. I am saying that this Senate should not miss out on this great opportunity. We must allow Kenya to remain a member of the community of nations of the world; respected. Do not cheat yourself that the international legal process only sorts out violence. We also go to the international legal processes for arbitration on serious trade matters. So if we pull out, how shall we fix the situation when we need arbitration between us and some of these Chinese who have started coming into our country? Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to finally suggest a way forward. If, indeed, we are committed to this country, we should be thinking of life beyond ourselves, life beyond Uhuru, Ruto and Sang. We should say; what is in Article 16 of the Rome Statute and then we pursue it for posterity. We should be saying; what is there in Article 7 of the United Nations Charter and then we pursue it. What is there is very brief. They are simply saying that if we pursue that route, we have to convince the United Nations Security Council that continued investigation and prosecution will lead to the absence of peace and stability in Kenya. If we are all agreed that it is because of these ongoing investigations and prosecutions that gave us stability at the beginning of this year, it, therefore, means that even that door of Article 16 of the Rome Statute and Chapter 7 of the United Nations Charter is closed. Let us fight impunity and ensure that our children live in peace. Ladies and gentlemen, let us vote “NO” to this Motion. I oppose. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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