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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Langat",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Benjamin Kipkirui Langat",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. I do not want to spend much time on responding because from the mood of the House, I have concluded that hon. Members have been very supportive of this Bill. I want to thank the hon. Members who have done their very best to read the Bill and contribute to this debate. I know many more hon. Members would have wanted to contribute to this Bill only that some of them are not in the House. We have so many things ahead of us, especially as a Committee; that is why I am happy that the debate has ended. With regard to the comments made by hon. Gichigi, I do not know whether he is still in the House. He had concern about one clause. I want to promise him that my Committee will look at it and if there are serious concerns, we will bring the necessary amendments at the Committee Stage. To my friend, hon. Nyikal who does not understand why the interest rates are 18 per cent plus, I want to tell him that he could find time so that we discuss this matter. Prof. Nyikal, you are a Member of Parliament and you can also come up with a Bill. You are at liberty to introduce a Bill so that we look at the matter of interest rates in this country. I quite agree with your sentiments. This is because in other countries they talk about two per cent or three per cent while in Kenya we are talking about--- In fact, if you determine the overall rates in terms of the other charges, you will realize that Kenyans are paying around 30 per cent, which is really punitive. So, I quite agree on your sentiments on interest rates. There is something I want to mention. If you look at the House now you will realize that there is no quorum. I am not reporting it, but I am only saying that the only unfortunate thing that we have--- Hon. Members, we need to be very serious with legislative business. The only serious business that you have in this House is legislation; this is what affects the people who elected you. When you are not present when we are passing a law, it really disturbs me. This issue has really disturbed me for the past one week, as the Chairman of this Committee. When I hear people accuse others for passing a law yet they are Members of the same House I know that they were not in the House. Sometimes when we are passing an important law, people run out of the House. I really do not know where they go. We really need to take the business of this House seriously. I am not accusing anybody of anything, but I am just saying that we should learn to be present in the House. Let us take the business of the House seriously. Some of the things we are passing here are very serious, and once we have passed them they become law."
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