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    "content": "village may become very difficult. I do not know, in my area, which one is the village and which one is the sub location. It is important that we have security at the village. It is important that the KPRs are recruited formally by the village government; whether they are ten or twenty depending on the need of the village government, in consultation with the county government. Our problem is that we do not trust our county governments. The national Government does not think that the county governments can deal with security matters. That is a problem. I think security can be dealt with by the people themselves because they need it and they know how to do it. You should merely give them the facility to do that and trust that that they will do it well as you supervise them. Right now, we have a commander of police at the county level. We provided that the county government would be involved in security matters. Right now, the governor himself does not even sit in the security meetings of the county governments’ security structure. This is against the law because we passed a law that he would not only be a member but also the Chairman of the County Security Policing so that he watches. As it is now, he cannot command the police and he now, merely, watches. He has been refused the right to do so and merely watches like other politicians saying we need security in a particular village or area. As I said, we need security. The Governor also says that we need security. So, who is in charge of this security? The security structures must go to the village and must be reporting up to the county level. The coordination of the KPR officers who will be stationed at the ujamaa villages in addition to the normal security forces will give adequate security. Let me put it in another way. I did not know about the KPR until I met it in my incarnation as a Minister of State for Immigration and Registration of Persons. We went to Turkana near the border of Kenya and Ethiopia. From our security forces, we had five officers. However, the people who were attacked were hundreds, by properly armed men from across the border. Our officers surrendered, gave them their guns and cooked for them because if they did not do that, they would have been wiped out. I asked them why they did that and they told me that we would not have found them alive if they had resisted. We cannot even hire enough policemen to protect our borders. I do not know how other countries do it. Uganda seems to have their security people at their borders; Ethiopia seems to have their own people at the border and even the new country, South Sudan, has security people at their borders. However, Kenya seems not to have security personnel at the border. Since we cannot afford it - I suppose so - then we must go down to the ujamaa and provide them with uniform, guns or ammunition at the village level. I support."
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