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    "content": "We have to get our infrastructure moving. We have to get Lamu Port on track. We have to open up the rail lines to the north for livestock development. We have to exploit our wind energy. We have to secure our borders. We have to do so many things. Now with devolution, if we read our Constitution carefully, it also provides that the counties have the constitutional responsibility to borrow externally, provided the Central Government gives them a guarantee. There are some ambitious counties that will want to industrialize. There are some ambitious counties that will want to develop a niche in the economy of this country. They will make merited efforts to borrow externally. When they do so, this House must rise to the occasion and give them the guarantee. If the ceiling we have capped is so tiny that the county of Murangâa, Bungoma or Siaya cannot even borrow US$2 billion to develop whatever economic activities they want, then we will not achieve what we are looking for. I want to urge the House and allay the fears of the new hon. Member for South Mugirango that what he is fearing is actually misplaced. We are not giving the Minister for Finance any blank cheque to go and borrow. We are not telling him to go and borrow from anybody and everybody or from anywhere and everywhere. We are simply saying that now the Ministry of Regional Development can bring a Sessional Paper here and borrow. The Ministry of Livestock Development can bring a Sessional Paper here and borrow. The Ministry of Energy can bring a Sessional Paper here and borrow. Each will be scrutinized and rejected or approved on merit. That is what it is all about. I want to urge the House that this is something necessary if this economy has to grow. If we had enough domestic resources, it is not an advisable thing to do. But we have to borrow because we do not have enough domestic resources. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are all crying for a dual carriage road from Mombasa to Busia via Kisumu; from Mombasa to Malava via Eldoret. We do not have enough local money for that. We want a highway to Addis Ababa. We do not have enough local money for that. We want so many things. I urge the House to approve this Motion so that we encourage Ministries to come up with their individual target borrowing programs. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to support."
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