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    "content": "dropped although we still have people who collect that revenue and who are on the payroll. These are some of the issues which the governors are crying about, whereas they are the ones who created that monster. It is because of their attitude and how they have managed the workers, which is unfortunate. As we go around the country as the Senate, looking at the transfer of functions, it is important for to also listen to the workers. They have unions and we do not know what will happen. I know when we will start the issue of deployment, the unions will go to court. What will happen next? We saw it happening in Nairobi and Mombasa. I want to thank the Governors of Nairobi and Mombasa for listening to the workers. They dialogued to see how they could move forward as a county. This is what other counties must embrace. How do we sit down and dialogue with the workers to ensure that there is that smooth transfer and retirement of workers? When the workers hear of a headcount, they pose a lot of challenges to the governor. So, if they agree even with the unions that take care of these workers, they will find a framework that will be easier to deliver in terms of their moving forward. Madam Temporary Speaker, I know we have talked about recruitment and staffing for some months now with the TA. Up to date, I want to plead to the TA, just the way you saw it in this House when the issue of Committees and their Chairpersons arose, that they also need to style up so that when we support them, we support them knowing that they are also working and they are also serious in carrying out their duties. When you are summoned in more than one Committee on the same issue for more than two to three months, the Committees will feel that they are consulting persons who do not care. Quoting Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, it is because of the way the TA has behaved that they find themselves in this situation. I want to assure them that we will stand with them, but they need to pull up their socks. If it is about the report, why can they not table the report? The governors must think of a solution that will now remove what we call ghost workers and that which will enhance the contracts of those who are working within the county governments. This will help them to know how much their expenditure is in terms of salaries and wages. Without naming particular counties, this is where you find that they are paying more than what the national Treasury has given them. You feel very worried for such a county because if their revenue has reduced and they have a deficit of Kshs1 billion in terms of wages, how will they move on to the next level? How will they ensure that there is development within their county? These are some of the things that we are really worried about as Senators and Kenyans. But I stand to be corrected that many of these Kenyans are worried about their future. We need to assure them that we are going to seek a solution with all the relevant Ministries to ensure that the process is done in a manner that is in line with the human rights instruments and within the socio-economic rights; that no Kenyan will suffer because of devolution. I beg to move and ask Sen. Madzayo to second the Motion."
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