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    "id": 392891,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kagwe",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Mutahi Kagwe",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was using Nyeri County as an example. I want to speak for the 47 counties and to say that no Senator here would want to see any child at home due to lack of fees. I think it is also important for us to appreciate the conditions and difficulties that the head teachers are operating in. They are saying that if they release one certificate and yet they are bound by law to collect the money, how will they, as head teachers, explain this? There is a clear understanding that they should not be hoarding certificates. There is also an understanding that they should not let anybody go with money that belongs to the school. Therefore, these people are sitting between a rock and a hard place. It is difficult for them to operate. We have been insisting and I, personally, went to see the Cabinet Secretary in his office and to emphasise to him the fact that, notwithstanding all the other laws, we must be sympathetic to our children and release these certificates to them. The other understanding I have is that the Ministry is pursuing all the necessary means to ensure that they get different collaterals so that they release the certificates. With regard to the Attorney-General and his involvement in this matter, that is not for me to respond. I believe that any Committee is allowed by the Standing Orders to summon anybody, including the Attorney-General, to respond and pursue this particular matter. We welcome it. The more we can do to help these children, the better. I believe that the Ministry concerned is also doing as much as it can to make sure that the certificates are released to the students as soon as possible."
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