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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ethuro",
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        "legal_name": "Ekwee David Ethuro",
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    "content": " I do not think there is a way of getting to the Chairman that will redeem our cause this afternoon. I would like to make the following observations. Sen. Musila had requested for a copy of the Statement. I hope, Mr. Chairman, that you have handed one to him. The Speaker is also in need of such a statement. I am completely sympathetic to the request by Sen. Musila. I do think that this is a matter of huge national importance. I was party to the amendment of that particular law by Sen. Musila, then Member for Kitui South Constituency. He has also raised an important issue about the relation between hoarding of certificates and the collection of fees and whether one should act as collateral for the other, which I do not think we got a satisfactory answer from the Chair of the Committee. I submit that collecting fees should not necessarily involve retaining certificates for the good reasons that Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. has explained and many other Senators. I will not take this to the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights, but I will send it back to the same Committee. If they want to draw some expertise from the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights, of course, they are at liberty to do so. As the Chair of the Committee on Education and Information Technology has observed, the Committee is at liberty to interrogate any matter. This is really an issue about education. I would urge the Committee to interrogate the matter further and ensure that other options are found. We now have the benefit; we know the history of this matter. Before the law was amended, there was a court process. This is an issue where one individual has taken the burden of a nation. I think it is time for the Senate to relieve that burden, which is, not only carried by that one individual, but, obviously, from the view of Senators, a public concern. We want our country to work out a solution for this particular problem, and obviously, through our time in this Senate. If we do so, this will, not only be good for this The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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