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    "id": 392963,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Karaba",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Daniel Dickson Karaba",
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    "content": "moving very fast in terms of positioning itself in the new dispensation. I recommend all Committees of this House to visit Mombasa. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you will agree with me that most counties are not up and running. They are engaged in endless wrangles. Every time they are fighting their speakers, governors, the majority leader and other leaders. These are our county assemblies. They are not engaging themselves in constructive debates. So, it is, therefore, important if prudent attention is given so that the MCAs can learn from one another. That is the reason we have video conferencing so that counties that are far from one another can learn what other counties are doing. With the help of the fibre optic cables that we are connecting, all counties will benefit a lot. They will learn a lot from other counties. We have counties that will lag behind to the detriment of their residents. Counties have their members drawn from within their localities; they are elected by the residents. Therefore, they are supposed to protect what happens in the counties. If they are not exposed to know what is happening elsewhere, they will become a closed shop and will continue to lag behind. They will not even learn anything from outside. Their level of exposure will be limited. For this reason, we encourage counties to move and compare themselves with others that have been doing well. Let them not feel as if they are being belittled when they are told that some other counties are doing better than them. Let them not feel as if they are lagging behind. As they learn from others, we should give credit where it belongs. We should learn and be seen to move in the right direction. I encourage committees to continue with their work. Let them table whatever they have found out there, so that we can compare that with other counties. If such exposures are not made here, you will be surprised to discover that some of the money you have given out has been misused and cannot be accounted for. They will not be interested to know what is happening elsewhere. They will not even know that there are people who can scrutinize their budgets. It is through such scrutiny that their problems can be known. It is through this that they become careful in discharging their duties. I support this Motion and urge more committees to do the same. I hope that one of these days, they will visit Kirinyaga County and table the report here, so that we compare it with Mombasa, Turkana and Siaya counties, among others. I suggest that if some counties will not have used the monies that will have been allocated to them on a monthly basis, they should not be allowed to withdraw money in subsequent months. They should use the money that they have first and account for it through the CRA. If we sit here and assume that all is well in our counties, one day we will be shocked to learn that we are throwing money into the dustbin. This will be money going to waste. Let us, first, see that the Kshs210 billion that was given by the CRA is prudently used. Those counties which will not have used the money properly should be reprimanded. They should not get more money subsequent to surrendering that month’s money. We should support the counties in terms of even telling them what the money should be used for. Some of these counties are just seeing a lot of money in their counties and yet they have not handled such amounts of money. They are now planning how to visit countries such as Great Britain, South Africa, China, Japan, among others, without first The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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