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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kagwe",
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        "legal_name": "Mutahi Kagwe",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I will utilise only three minutes. I rise to support the Motion in terms of the recommendations of the Committee which I happen to be a member. In doing so, I also wish to highlight that the recommendations made by the Controller of Budget, including investigating the Turkana Executive branch, and possibly pitting it to its ultimate conclusion, I seek the indulgence of the House, in the context that has been established by the previous speakers on this matter. The capacity of the Turkana County Government in terms of building this budget and the knowledge, thereof of the procedures as they run and stand, are highly questionable. Therefore, whereas we know in law that ignorance is no defence, we are starting something new. It is important for us to keep that in mind. It is not just the Turkana County Government that is wrong as we speak. Yesterday, the mandate of the Treasury, given by the Transition Authority to collect money on behalf of the county governments, particularly revenue at the county level, expired. As I speak, the Treasury is collecting money from the county level illegally. This is not how the Public Finance Management Act is designed. However, owing to the transition and the fact that if Treasury stopped collecting the money everything would go chaotic – counties do not have the capacity to do so – that is why we have situations where yes, the Constitution is there. Yes, the law is there, but people are not acting The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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