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    "content": "come up with another county and not Turkana because of the way we know about it. We want to blame them that they are unable to budget. I think we are condemning them too early. This is something that we should not allow. What I mean is that these people might not have had the capacity to do what others were doing and they can be excused for not knowing because we are still learning, as people have said here. We need to know why that had to happen. Maybe, they did not even know what was happening. So, a clever person came up with that amorphous figure of Kshs30 million but what is of interest is that on page 6; the figures changed so much. We are talking about Kshs200 million or Kshs300 million in increases or decreases. It is like they were trying to balance but were unable, thus ending up with a shortage of Kshs30 million. That was fraud; and if that is what they did and if that is what they can do to what we call a county which we know of; having been given the adjectives of being marginalized; of not being developed, of not doing this, but with the discovery of oil, of late could be the reason why they could now hide these figures so that somebody could pocket that money. But there must be a reason why these variances are coming about. Is it as a result of not training these people to handle the figures? Do we, therefore, say that even the people in the Executive of Turkana County are as marginalized as the county? Are they not able to make a sound budget like other counties? Do we have other counties that we can compare to Turkana so that we can see whether this is true or whether it is a true reflection of what Turkana is up to? I think something is missing. What is missing, therefore, is what should not be allowed to pass through here, and that is why we are opposed to this. What happened to the Kshs30 million? O, so it got misplaced towards the end and we are just about to end the year – we are already going to October and after that, December. In January and February, the people will start planning for the 2014/2015 budgetary allocations and proposals. If this thing was therefore allowed to go through, and these people have only managed to get Turkana as an example, I am sure they are going to get more others who are going to give us a headache for nothing. So I am, therefore, proposing that more investigations be carried out by the relevant Committee and more thorough amendments should be tabled here. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you will agree with me that budgeting for Kshs9 billion – according to what I have seen here – is not an easy thing. Some of these people have never known what a billion is, and I am sure the figures involved are too much, and they did not know to what level or how far to jump up or down. That is why we have a very big variation in increases and decreases in terms of hundreds of millions – Kshs300 million or Kshs400 million – I do not know whether you are reading page 6. An increase of Kshs200 million or Kshs300 million is impossible; if we are going to have that as an example of a county which has done well in budgeting, then we are doomed! Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I believe that as a Senate which is mandated to look into this – we are mandated to look into all these figures ourselves – we should not, therefore, blame Turkana. We should blame the Senate if we are going to pass this thing. We must blame ourselves because I am supposed to make sure that, in my county, something like this should not pass. I should be more involved in it from the first stage to the last stage as it comes to who is going to be the drafter, how much money will be The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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