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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity. I think there are two constitutional issues here which I think the Chairman, Sen. Murkomen, should consider; that in an open democratic government, the first principle is that you must have an elected Government. We are glad that the Governors are elected and the Members of the County Assembly are also elected. The other more fundamental principle which I think should be called into question is that there should be no taxation without representation. The Government is taxing citizens on an everyday basis at the national and the county levels. So, the fact that there is a Government running at the county level without representation is a major constitutional question because then representation is full time representation and it has been said here quite clearly that the job of Senators, the Members of the County Assembly and the Member of the National Assembly has no time span; you can be called to work at any time. The other thing which casts doubt on the work which the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) is doing is that some of the evaluation they have done themselves---. I cannot understand why members of the Judicial Service Commission should be getting allowances of Kshs80, 000 without taxation and the Chairman of the Devolved Government Committee of the Senate can sit from 9.00 a.m., to 2.00 p.m., and get Kshs5, 000 based on the kind of evaluation they are talking about. So, already, we have a big problem with the Salaries and Remuneration Commission. Finally, just to repeat that you know that in the previous Constitution, the qualifications of Senators, Members of the County Assemblies and others were well spelt out in the Constitution. But when now it came to the Senators, Members of the National Assembly and the Members of the County Assembly, the educational qualifications were removed. I heard from what they have been doing and their general view was that these MCAs – as Sen. Kagwe said - are basically councillors, which they are not. But even if The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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