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    "id": 401739,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ethuro",
    "speaker_title": "The Speaker",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 158,
        "legal_name": "Ekwee David Ethuro",
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    "content": " Order, Senators! While I appreciate the support from Sen. G.G. Kariuki, I think that any Member of the House can actually challenge a decision of the Chair. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale was asking for guidance. Even when we were approving the Motion, we had kind of similar concerns. But if you look at the operational Standing Order 45 (3), it says:- “If the Speaker is of the opinion that any proposed Motion – (a) is one which infringes, or the debate on which is likely to infringe, any of these Standing Orders; (b) is contrary to the Constitution or an Act of Parliament, without expressly proposing appropriate amendment to the Constitution or the Act of Parliament; (c) is too long; (d) is framed in terms which are inconsistent with the dignity of the Senate; or (e) contains or implies allegations which the Speaker is not satisfied that the Mover can substantiate; the Speaker may direct either that, the Motion is inadmissible, or that notice of it cannot be given without such alteration as the Speaker may approve.” When you really look at the things that I would use to deny the Motion, none of those will really fit the bill. So, you have to look at the value of a Motion in the only sense that--- You will remember that before we brought the changes to the Standing Orders, Members could actually not bring Bills directly. It used to be the previous tradition that you bring a Motion in order to ventilate and canvass support to an idea, concept or issues and then, that way, when you have gained some currency and acceptance, you can now translate that into a Bill. So, for purposes of deliberating, especially on matters of security, it is under those circumstances that we approved the Motion. So, the Motion is proper and admissible. In any event, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale who purported to oppose it, also admitted that the Motion is attempting to remove the discretion from the licensing officer, which I think is also a contribution that you may wish to make or otherwise. Hon. Senators, please, ignore the “resumption of debate” indicated on the Order Paper. As you know, these Order Papers are prepared a day before. So, the assumption was that this was supposed to have started in the Morning Sitting and that in the event that it had not been conclude, then we would proceed in the afternoon. So, we are beginning afresh."
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