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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Ndiema",
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        "legal_name": "Henry Tiole Ndiema",
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    "content": "Your Excellency the Governor; you know, it creates a lot of confusion. So, it is better for those of our people, the wananchi, to know what name to refer to or what title to call an official in any function, because right now, they seem to be confused. We also want to know who is entitled to be the First Lady, and this should come from us. Let us not leave any title unattended to or not placed in the pecking order. Madam Temporary Speaker, in trying to set the list of precedence, I think we are also trying to correct the confusion that seems to be in the counties. I believe this is also in the interest of our colleagues in the counties – the Governors and County Commissioners. I remember when I attended the last function in my county, there was really confusion as to who the chief person in that function was; whether it was the Governor or the County Commissioner, who says he or she represents the President. There was also confusion as to who invites who to speak; is it the County Commissioner to invite the Governor to speak, or is it the Deputy Governor to invite the County Commissioner? Or is it the Senator to invite the Governor? Of course, I could not do that because I represent the county. Who, at that level, is more senior to the other when it comes to functions? Eventually, when it came to being there on the dais to receive the march past and so forth, both the County Commissioner and the Governor had to be there. But I think things must be set straight and it is the responsibility of this House to enact legislation to bring order, because when order is not there and the wananchi are there trying to look, they are wondering what the Government is doing because they see it and they talk about it. It is really a shame that we have hitherto not given any direction on this matter. I am aware that when we were elected and the idea of “Your Excellency” came in, my Governor said “surely no; do not call me your Excellency; I will just be referred to as Governor so-and-so;” and we all thought it was a joke. Eventually, it came to pass – and I am yet to know – but I do not think most Governors would be averse to having a title of a “Governor,” which in itself is a big and respectable name. We should not read too much into it and say that if we remove the title “Your Excellency” they will object. I will not expect that and I think these are responsible citizens. These are leaders that were elected by the people and they will gladly accept any title that will be seen to be fit for use. I think this title was also imposed. I do not know whether it was the Transition Authority (TA) which brought it. I also do not know"
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