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    "id": 402319,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale",
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        "legal_name": "Bonny Khalwale",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for the reminder. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, those are the things that stood out. But let me bring out an issue which has been brought up this afternoon by two speakers; namely, Sen. Elachi and Sen. Kagwe. You have spoken to the issue of punishment; yes, it is provided for. I had hoped that we would use this debate to assess the appropriate punishment, because here we have simply suggested that if you breach this law, then you are liable to a fine not exceeding Kshs100,000 or a term in jail not exceeding one year. Maybe what we need in the Third Stage is to decide whether this punishment is too harsh or too lenient. If it is too lenient, then there is room for us to step it up. I will tell you of a personal chat I had with one of my former colleagues in the Tenth Parliament, who is currently a Governor near here in Nairobi. He told me: “What is Kshs100,000? This flag is so important that I will fly it for myself and my people. If it is Kshs100,000 that you want, I will give it to you every time I am stopped and arrested.”"
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