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    "id": 40268,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Lands",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, having said that, I have worked with the nominee for Chief Justice, Dr. Willy Mutunga, and I think I have no reservations at all about him. I think he is a great Kenyan. Many of us would say that even in the process of the creation of a new constitutional order and dispensation, he was in the thick and thin of things. He is a great legal mind and the same goes for the nominee for the Deputy Chief Justice. I have worked with Tobiko. I have been in court with him and I know the degree of his brilliance and his capacity. We are making a decision that we have got to live with for eight years. So, we should not forget this rider that the Committee that has put on the basis of 17 votes against two. It is not to stop anybody from assuming office. Even the Constitution says that when you are appointed even by the President, there are other constitutional provisions that you must abide by before stepping into that office. I would want my friend Tobiko to set in this office on a clean slate, and not to have this baggage. One of the problems that he had was with the Attorney-General. He was not the prosecutor. his hands were tied in a certain way, but we cannot leave these questions unanswered, otherwise we will be doing great injustice. We will have set the wrong standards. I want to ask this Parliament, when we are passing this judgment, who will cast the first stone? We need to also look at ourselves. Who are we? Who will cast the first stone?"
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