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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Haji",
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        "legal_name": "Yusuf Mohammed Haji",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not capable of telling who is telling the truth or who is lying but all I can say is that the police officer who was found dead with his gun next to him suggests more than a kidnapping case because he would have used his gun in case of kidnap. So, he might have been murdered because of another motive. Secondly, regarding the two questions that the hon. Senator raised about pending court cases, it is straight forward. The matter was reported to the police, police took action, the criminals concerned were taken to court and we are waiting for the court to dispense with the case. Investigations mean that nobody has been arrested because nobody has been taken to court. The matter is still under investigation and I think we should leave it that way. As to the question raised by Sen. (Dr.) Machage, I cannot confirm and I do not think that the security services are involved in the kidnappings but what has been stated in the newspapers - and we do not go by the papers - is that there are some ex-service men who were involved in these kidnappings. That may be correct. Regarding the question raised by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that the Government is advising people not to pay ransom, I do agree that the money should not be paid because some delaying tactics can be used. You remember there were two Asian girls who were kidnapped and these people were demanding Kshs80 million but negotiations went on and on for two weeks until the police caught up with them. So, the Government is advising people not to enter into an agreement of paying ransom but they should let the Government know and they will be advised by the technical people who know how to end such cases. Regarding what Sen. Juma Boy Juma asked, I have said that there is no contention on who to believe and who not to believe. I have said that nobody would know better than the area leader but that is the information I was given to issue here. On the question raised by Sen. Hassan, I quite agree with him that the whole subject matter is kidnapping whether two, three, seven or ten, it is still alarming and it is worrying. So, everything possible should be done to deal with this issue."
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