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    "speaker_name": "Mrs. Ngilu",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Water and Irrigation",
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        "legal_name": "Charity Kaluki Ngilu",
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    "content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I stand to support this Motion as amended. We have watched with a lot of interest the nomination of these three. First, three appointments were made in January and they tried to come to this House but the hon. Prime Minister said that there were no consultations. Therefore, we went back to the drawing board. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it was not until the 17th of May that, again, the new proposals of the Chief Justice, the Deputy Chief Justice and the Director of Public Prosecutions were made. We were all very happy because we had seen a process that was really participatory. This was what the country has been calling for. Obviously, there was time lost when we in Parliament did not agree on which Committee was going to deal with this. Now that the CIOC has dealt with this, first I want to commend their good work. We are on the way now to getting this country moving when the Judiciary is in place. This is one of the three arms of Government. If Parliament cannot pass these names, then we want to be discriminatory. I have heard they do not want to support one nominee and we know them. We watched on television all those who came before the Committee and opposed the nomination of Mr. Tobiko and if you look at them you just say; “this is a case of sour grapes”. These are the people who had tried to be in that position also but could not make it. For that reason, they opposed the nomination. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, they made allegations that could not be contained and one could not understand. I am a case in point in this House, where allegations were made but they could not be substantiated simply because somebody wanted to get to me. If this House does not pass the name of Mr. Tobiko, it will be wrong. We did not hear the two Principals say that they had disagreed like before. They agreed with the names and brought them to Parliament. Who would then come up and say we do not think the Principals were right and they did not do what we expected them to do? In the case of Dr. Willy Mutunga, let me say here that I am very proud of him because he comes from my constituency. He has been in the struggle for so long. We know that Dr. Mutunga is a very independent minded person. We know the Judiciary is going to be independent. We know Parliament is also going to be independent. We also know now that Parliament is also going to be independent, according to the Constitution. We are also going to have an Executive that will not be too heavy on either the Judiciary or Parliament. So, I think this country is now on the way to getting to the second level of real development and democracy."
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