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    "content": "A governor has about 10 other ‘soldiers’ following him, so that when he appears somewhere in a market, it is true to say that he is a governor. When a Senator appears, he is not even recognised; and this is the amount of money that we are still trying to vet here in order to give this person to spend. Surely, I think we will be missing the point if we will just be talking here and yet the money is being used to do something different because there is nobody to ask for advice. That is exactly what we are doing here. We are trying to institute and come up with a policy in the Board. We want to sit in the Board in the county where we will discuss whether money that has been allocated to each county has been well spent. If the money is not well spent, then we will question before the issues come to the Senate. Why should we be coming here to solve problems of all the 47 counties? By the time we solve the problems of the 47 counties, the five years will have elapsed. So, what will we have done to help the counties? We need to pass this Bill. This Bill is meant to save counties and to ensure that Governors and all those who are elected are protected. These people can be protected in a board where all the elected members sit to do what is spelt out in this Bill. We should sit with the ward representatives, Members of the National Assembly, Governors and the Senators. When we sit together, whatever is done will become a responsibility of all the elected leaders of that county. Whoever does not understand this Bill should know that this is the right way of doing things. It is the right way because if one of us is not included in the Board, he could easily pass the buck. However, right now, we may have the same people who are playing the role of oversighting embezzling money. Why should we watch people embezzling money and yet after five years, we will have to explain what we did about it? We know that we need to avert such problems. This can only be done through such Boards. The Board, therefore, is coming at the right time. The Board will act as a shock absorber. The Governor will also have a place to lean on when he happens to spend a lot of money on one project. The following year, the Senator will try and ask for money for something else. That Board will be responsible for doing everything in that county. We have been passing many Motions here. I am aware that I have brought two or so Motions. Those are the Motions that are not brought to the fore. We have committees that are charged with the responsibility of implementation. These committees will see to it that Motions that are passed by the Senate are implemented in the counties. Since we will be providing oversight to the counties, we will also be checking whether the Motions are being implemented. Therefore, what forum can we use for this? This can only be the forum of elected people. We were all elected on the same slate. Some of us, in some areas, belong to one party. Some of us got more votes than the Members of Parliament. For example, I came here with more votes than the Member of Parliament. Therefore, if that is the case, I should then be given a chance to tell people how I will deliver what I promised them. The Motions we pass here should get down to the counties and should be implemented so that our counties can do well. There is something else that we need to think about. I have an office in Kirinyaga. However, if I only sit there to read newspapers the whole day without knowing how the money we passed here has been used, then I will be doing nothing. We approved Kshs3 billion for Kirinyaga County. Has the Ksha3 billion been spent well? I need to have a The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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