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    "id": 40486,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/40486/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Ethuro",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Ekwee David Ethuro",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when we decide to do our job, we must be patient and have the staying power. When I was calling for quorum and when I was opposing the Procedural Motion, it was to ensure that this job is done and done properly. I knew that after that previous Order, there will be a mass walkout. You can see for yourself. I support this Bill and I want to congratulate the Minister for bringing it to the House. We are not refusing to transact business, but lack of planning on the part of the Executive, as they say in the management sloganeering, should not be an automatic emergency on the part of the Legislature to the extent that you reduce the publication period and the referral period. At this rate, you might also reduce the contents of the Bills. This is what I was objecting. I want the Minister to plan anticipatory enough, so that these Bills come in good time to allow public participation in the business we are transacting. It is a constitutional obligation on our part. On this particular Bill, for those of us who have served in this House, particularly in the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) for a very long time, we always made recommendations that we must separate the office of the Controller of Budget and the Auditor-General. When we went to Naivasha, we made this particular distinction. In fact, some of the issues we are discussing even in the approval process that we have just gone through today is because we knew the institutional constraints in the way the independent offices were operating. That is why we want it to be constitutional. In this Constitution, we must remind ourselves that there are people whom we have forced out of office because there was no other way of doing it. We removed the Chief Justice. We told him: âBy 27th January, you will go home whether you like it or notâ. We have told the Attorney-General that come 27th August, the smiling Attorney-General of the Republic of Kenya will go home. This is because we were caught in a situation that we were helpless, incompetent and we could not do much. We had to get a new Constitution. Prof. Anyangâ-Nyâongâo seems to have been either following the proceedings of our Committee very keenly or he is just a good professor as I want to believe. The issue of the process and, indeed, one of the recommendations that we have made in the report and even in the Motion that we passed today is that the issue of the process must be looked at. This Bill talks about its purpose of being identifiable even before the recommendation. We would like this Bill not only to confine itself to the two offices, but we would like to expand it and we will be calling on the Minister to co- operate with us in a very maximum manner. We would like to expand it to include the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) and all those other independent offices, so that, that process of identification is very clear. We would like the procedures that the professor talked about to be elaborate so that we can be sure that all the members of the Committee that is vetting are together with us. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we do not want business to come to us when we are being harassed and have to seek extension of time especially on such important fundamental constitutional matters. First of all, we are looking for a more regular time when there is no stress. In fact, if you look at the HANSARD, because of the nature of business and time, you will find the tempers rising. Some of the meetings take place in the morning, afternoon and late in the evening. If it were not for the wisdom of the larger Committee and some of us who are pronounced peace markers, even for us to"
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