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    "id": 406649,
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    "speaker_name": "December 4, 2013 SENATE DEBATES 35 Sen. G.G. Kariuki",
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    "content": "Okay, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. President Uhuru Kenyatta and the Deputy President can do good service to this country if they forget so many other issues although I know that they have problems. This issue of insecurity in this country will put us in a position where we shall not be able to come out of it. I am not just saying it for the sake of it because I have studied about international terrorism and things like that. For example, if people decided to take over a certain Government office, there is no security agency in this country to stop them. They will just march there and do anything that they want to. Who are we going to appeal to if Sen. Haji, a person I respect so much, especially when it comes to security matters and the former Provincial Commissioner, cannot be given an opportunity to speak to the President on issues affecting this country? I think we are failing somewhere. I cannot fail to say that this country has enemies. Those enemies are within us and they are working. I have studied foreign affairs in the whole world and I can tell you for sure that this country can just be taken over by criminals in a very simple way because we, as leaders of this country, have been penetrated by foreign agents and we are not aware. I think we are in big problems. This is a situation that has brought the Chairman of the Committee on National Security to the point of despair; what do you expect? If it was in the United States or any other developed country, this matter would have been taken very seriously. Here we just talk about it. That is why I brought my Motion. We just talk and that matter dies there. We need to do something to assist His Excellency the President and his Deputy and this country and the citizens of Kenya by trying to put right the security of this country. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when we talk about Vision 2030, how are we going to achieve that kind of thing? Those are dreams unless we know whether we are secure or not. Who is going to spend his money in this country? For example, if I wanted to build a 20 storied house, I would consider very critically whether I will be in my right mind to do that when I see insecurity every day. I pray that hon. Senators will come in the afternoon and talk about the Motion that is coming up in the afternoon; let us talk about it and even amend it. Whether you want to appoint a select committee I do not mind, but I do not want any confrontation with the select committee. I want a committee that will review our security first and see what we have done and whether we have anything that we can add to it. We should not stop at anything. We should bring on board everybody whom we think can assist this country be it from China, Britain, America and everywhere else. We have to talk to these people and know how they have tackled insecurity in their countries. China has a population of 1.3 billion people. They survive. Britain has about 450 million people and they can survive without much problem. We are only 40 million people and yet we cannot bring our heads together because of insecurity. Where have we failed? I do not want to blame any person who has been given a position. There was no other way of promoting those people other than through the Constitution, but unfortunately, they are the same people. We do not want to condemn them, but give them the right direction and manage them well and we are going to see the results. The top guys I see in the military, police and other security agencies, I know them very well. They are capable of doing what is supposed to be done, but they cannot work comfortably because of the baggage which is on their shoulders. They are not allowed to move anywhere because of tribalism and corruption here and there. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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