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    "id": 406874,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/406874/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kagwe",
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        "legal_name": "Mutahi Kagwe",
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    "content": ", especially with reduced salaries and so on. So, any money that can go to our constituents to assist them in moving out of poverty can only be supported by the MPs. But it can only have an effect if it is thought about clearly in terms of the long term; not one moment when we give the money and then from there, we have no idea about what happens to the people we give the money. So, we must ask ourselves; after this, what happens? How are we going to scale up the businesses that we give these people? Sen. Musila was talking about how people buy goats, and how people will go into that sort of thing – making ciondos and so on – but we must appreciate that, that is only a beginning point. How many goats can we keep on buying, honestly? What sort of economy is the economy of buying goats? We must consider this issue very seriously. We do not know of any nation that can talk about having moved from a third world to a The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate second world economy on the basis of buying goats and such associated activities! Therefore, we must plan real businesses for our people."
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