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    "id": 40764,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Deputy Speaker",
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    "content": "Fair enough. Minister ole Ntimama, the Chair has referred to the HANSARD. You might want to seek a further ruling or a further direction on the allegations made by the hon. Member at that time. The fact that the Speaker said he would consult the HANSARD--- Hon. ole Ntimama did indicate that the Question is different from the Question that was asked two weeks ago. Hon. ole Ntimama, the Chair has referred to the institutional memory of the House, the HANSARD in this case, and is satisfied that the Question is the same Question that was asked. However, indeed, as you put it, there were claims that were made by hon. Kiuna in which the Speaker indicated that he would verify the same from the HANSARD. The Speaker said: “The best way to deal with this matter is for me to have time to verify from the HANSARD what the Member for Molo said. So, I will defer this Question to Tuesday next week in order to acquaint myself.” Hon. Kiuna, indeed, the Chair is satisfied that you imputed improper motive on the person of hon. ole Ntimama on the Floor of the House. As per the rules of the House, you must be in a position--- In the first place, you cannot do it without a Substantive Motion. Having done that, you have a responsibility now, to either substantiate the facts fully or withdraw. Having said that, if the fact that you are going to indicate on the Floor of the House will touch on the person of an hon. Member of this House, the rules again bars you from doing that without a Substantive Motion. It is a catch-22 situation. You must substantiate or withdraw. You cannot proceed to substantiate without a proper Motion of Censure on the character of a person of an hon. Member of this House. The Chair is clearly in a situation that it will give a further ruling on the same after brief consultations and chief institutional memory from the Clerk’s Department. It is not possible to deal with this matter without a further reference. The Chair directs that---"
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