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    "id": 413513,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/413513/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mati",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 2469,
        "legal_name": "G.J. Munuve Mati",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I was saying that if I was hon. Mwadime – I do not know whether that amendment can be done now – I would have suggested that this money goes straight to the communities rather than the Cabinet Secretary because when we take it to the Cabinet Secretary, we are bureaucratizing the disbursement and utilisation of the Fund. Most communities may not get anything as the money moves from Nairobi to the county, the sub-counties to the village level. Most of the communities that suffer the human-wildlife conflict cannot stand for themselves except through the Members of Parliament. If you bureaucratize it, the Cabinet Secretary will decide how much is to be spent, the governor will decide how much will be disbursed and at every point, they will sit down to budget for the money and appropriate some of it for their sitting allowances and other expenses of going to see the Cabinet Secretary. Most likely, the communities will get nothing. I was going to suggest that the resources go directly to the communities, whether through the constituency offices or the sub-county offices rather than be controlled in Nairobi. There will always be some justification for that money to be used to fuel Land Rovers and buy Land Cruisers. Nairobi has always got a way of appropriating money on behalf of the communities. Everything is supposed to be done in national interest, even depriving the poor and the disadvantaged who have been impoverished by the wildlife."
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