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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Abdalla",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Amina Ali Abdalla",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary deputy Chairman, Sir, yes, it does help. There is a confusion that I thought would be necessary to deal with. The Laikipia National Reserve that is in this list is gazetted. So, for us to deal with it, we have to deal with it by de-gazetting an already existing national reserve. But the Member had confused me slightly when he was asking for my support on this amendment. He confused me when he said that there is land that is currently in dispute and in court that was bought by the African Wildlife Foundation from the former President. That Foundation wants that area gazetted as a national reserve. That is in court and it is not in this Bill. So, if we are not confusing, then the ruling of the Chair meets the Member’s condition because we cannot use this Bill to degazette a gazetted national reserve. We have to do it through the processes stipulated in this Bill and in the Act when it becomes an Act."
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