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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Shebesh",
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        "legal_name": "Rachel Wambui Shebesh",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, the country is aware that governors think they are presidents. It is obvious from the way they act; either it is because of the title we gave them or the money that we devolved to the counties. But what shocks me – because theirs is an attitude problem – is the way the Judiciary is now acting. I think when we talked about reform of the Judiciary; we gave too much clout to the Judiciary to the point where we made them look like they would never sin. What they are doing now is what Kenyans fought for many years in terms of reforms of the Judiciary. I am glad I am not a lawyer, but I listened to hon. Kaluma and the other lawyers, and I said, these are the arguments of court. The arguments on this Floor, which Kenyans will understand, are that the Judiciary is back where it used to be. It is to the highest bidder that the court order goes. I have no qualms in saying that because Nairobi is the heart beat of court orders. Hon. Speaker, I want to give examples, if you will allow me, so that people do not think that we are fighting the Judiciary. Recently, there has been public debate about the differences between the Governor of Nairobi and myself. The court is actually the one that interfered with the process that would have been more judicial. A Nairobi voter was represented in court by a lawyer who also happens to be an executive member of the County Assembly of Nairobi. To me, when you come in front of a court, it is like the Minister of the Government going to represent the Government in court. I am not a lawyer or an expert of the Constitution, but I am 100 per cent sure that something is wrong there. Using that argument from that already flawed process, the court ordered us to continue with negotiations which we had not begun. I am saying that a ruling was given to continue a process that had never begun, on the basis of one side of an argument. Where we have reached in the Judiciary, we may think that we have the best judicial The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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