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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kamanda",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Maina Kamanda",
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    "content": "Committee for providing, at least, this time round, money for KeRRA and KURA. We all know that this was a big problem last time. But this time round, I want to assure hon. Members that money is already there in the budget. But my concern and the concern of my Committee is how the infrastructure is being handled by the people running the Government and, more so, the National Treasury. There can never be any growth in development if you kill infrastructure. I want to echo a word that I was given by my friend there, hon. (Eng.) Rege, who was a Permanent Secretary (PS) at one time. I asked him at one time: “During your time; you people did many infrastructural projects” He hinted to me that, at that particular time, the entire Government had no any other agenda. You talked to the two Principals and the idea was about infrastructure. Ask them anything else; it was infrastructure, infrastructure and infrastructure. I think that is the way we need to move forward because if we leave infrastructure and talk about other things, nobody will remember this House. We will leave this House after five years without anything tangible to tell our people when you go back to them. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I want to address the issue of county governments. It is good that those people are reminded that they are not federal states. That is because of the way they are behaving. It is as if they are federal states. I am saying this because we have engineers in every county from the national Government. Those people have gone ahead and employed other engineers. Therefore, there is a lot duplication and wastage. There must be co-ordination. There is no difference between the county government and the county councils which were there before. They are almost similar. The only difference, at least, is that they have more powers. But what they do not have is the accounting officer. That time, they had the accounting officer who was the Minister for Local Government and the PS. I think this is the gap that we need to fill so that we do not have wastage in that line. The other aspect is that we all fought together for KeRRA and KURA. I thought we should also fight together for health services. Time was not ripe to devolve the health services to the county governments and that is why we are having a lot of problems with doctors resigning. Very soon, we are going to hear that nurses are also resigning. We must decide, as a House, to tackle this matter here. My dear friend who has been in the Ministry of Health for a long time should lead us in those negotiations, so that we can tell the Transitional Authority (TA) that, at least, time was not ripe to devolve health services to the counties. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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