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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mati",
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        "legal_name": "G.J. Munuve Mati",
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    "content": "have ignored that fact and that is why the Senate has gone the long way so that the governors do not continue to ignore the importance of county level co-ordination. Monitoring and evaluation, according to me, is not micromanagement by the governors. We are aware of many governors who have gone ahead and spent money to hire choppers in order to travel around as their citizens suffer from hunger and other social ills. We need to look for a way of making sure that devolution does not devolve purely to the office of the governor and the small clique that the governor leads at the county headquarters level. This is what seems to be happening in the majority of counties. I talk to many Members of the County Assemblies (MCAs), but I do not want to go too much into the frustrations that they are having. What I would say with a high level of confidence is that monitoring and evaluation is not taking place at the county level. For me, it is important that we move as fast as possible to ensure that this matter is determined as quickly as possible. The only way to do this is to actually reject this Bill, as hon. Kaluma suggested. That way, we will not have to wait for a back and forth process with the Senate. We will instead create an opportunity to come round a table and actually work out a formula which is operational. Like many of the Members who have spoken before me, I accept that there might be no need for a Senator to be running to attend a small ward’s development forum. Really, how many can they attend? I have five wards in my constituency; how many can I attend? What we need to do is to operationalized and developsystems to be able to control at the county level rather than dealing with village stuff. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I thought that I should add my voice to this noble course and request very humbly that we reject this Bill with a view to forcing this joint bicameral meeting that is supposed to take place so that we hammer out those issues that we feel are not commensurate with what we need to do. With those remarks, I wish to propose that we reject the Bill with a view to forcing the Senate and the National Assembly to get together and work out a mechanism that will produce a document that is operational within a month, if not less."
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