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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kagwe",
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        "legal_name": "Mutahi Kagwe",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to perhaps assist my Chairman in terms of the issues discussed and how we arrived at them. First, the idea was not to table a sample of the reports from the Auditor-General. The idea is to table all the reports. We said that it was possible for us to discuss specific counties on the basis of cross cutting issues that are apparent and clearly applicable to all the counties. I am following up on the question that was raised earlier regarding the capacity of Committees; it is very difficult to go through 47 huge volumes in the short time that Sen. Orengo has pointed out. However, it is possible and we requested the Auditor-General for a summary of everything that is there so that we see whether there are cross cutting issues that are applicable to all the counties. These are the highlights of the main issues that we need to look into. However, when it comes to discussions on the Floor of the House, we agreed that we should table all the reports and that any Member can raise any issue on any county. I think it is important for us to clarify that. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Constitution is also clear in terms of the relationship between our oversight ability and that of the county assemblies. The Constitution clearly envisages a situation where there are two levels of oversight, both at the Senate and at the county governments. We as the Senate are supposed to look at the wider picture. This includes the monies or revenues that are allocated by the national Government. At the county level, it is very clear that specifics of the works of various Ministries should also be over sighted by MCAs. I am not saying this to do your work. I am only assisting my colleague where I can."
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